Utah Sex Offenders to be More Closely Watched

2. ZMan said:

It's a proven fact that 90% or more of all sexual crimes occur in the victims own home or immediate family, so a buffer zone can be 50 or 100 miles, and it will not make any difference.

They do not get GRANT money if they do not pass these laws, and these laws are nothing but PLACEBO's that do nothing to prevent a serious predator from committing another crime.

If a predator really wanted to commit another crime, how would a residency zone, buffer zone, GPS, registry or anything else prevent another crime?

We must stop being stupid and filled by hate and rage, and be SMART on crime and LISTEN TO THE EXPERTS who have said over and over and over these laws do nothing to prevent future crimes.

WAKE UP PEOPLE!!! USE YOUR BRAINS!!!!

4. ZMan said:

This man says "sex offenders" have harmed children (in the audio). Well, that is wrong, he is making a blanket statement that all sex offenders have harmed children. LIES, LIES, LIES...

The sheeple will believe anything...

http://sexoffenderissues.pbwiki.com/#Recidivism

General Recidivism

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For clarification: the 272,111 Persons mentioned include all criminals released—not just sex offenders.

* Of the 272,111 persons released from prisons in 15 States in 1994, an estimated 67.5% were rearrested for a felony or serious misdemeanor within 3 years, 46.9% were reconvicted, and 25.4% resentenced to prison for a new crime.

* The 272,111 offenders discharged in 1994 accounted for nearly 4,877,000 arrest charges over their recorded careers.

* Within 3 years of release, 2.5% of released rapists were rearrested for another rape, and 1.2% of those who had served time for homicide were arrested for a new homicide.

* Sex offenders were less likely than non-sex offenders to be rearrested for any offense –– 43 percent of sex offenders versus 68 percent of non-sex offenders.

* Sex offenders were about four times more likely than non-sex offenders to be arrested for another sex crime after their discharge from prison –– 5.3 percent of sex offenders versus 1.3 percent of non-sex offenders.

Sex Offenders Recidivism

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* On a given day in 1994 there were approximately 234,000 offenders convicted of rape or sexual assault under the care, custody, or control of corrections agencies; nearly 60% of these sex offenders are under conditional supervision in the community.

* The median age of the victims of imprisoned sexual assaulters was less than 13 years old; the median age of rape victims was about 22 years.

* An estimated 24% of those serving time for rape and 19% of those serving time for sexual assault had been on probation or parole at the time of the offense for which they were in State prison in 1991.

* Of the 9,691 male sex offenders released from prisons in 15 States in 1994, 5.3% were rearrested for a new sex crime within 3 years of release.

* Of released sex offenders who allegedly committed another sex crime, 40% perpetrated the new offense within a year or less from their prison discharge.

Child Victimizers Recidivism

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* Approximately 4,300 child molesters were released from prisons in 15 States in 1994. An estimated 3.3% of these 4,300 were rearrested for another sex crime against a child within 3 years of release from prison.

* Among child molesters released from prison in 1994, 60% had been in prison for molesting a child 13 years old or younger.

* Offenders who had victimized a child were on average 5 years older than the violent offenders who had committed their crimes against adults. Nearly 25% of child victimizers were age 40 or older, but about 10% of the inmates with adult victims fell in that age range.

6. WASP Ohio said:

Interestingly enough I personally went to the sheriffs office yesterday where sex offenders go to register.

I talked to the person in charge. She said that it is not the fact that sex offenders are on the registry that makes it hard for them to keep a job, it is them being a felon.

So even if the registry was "police only", being a felon is why you can't find a job.

It is sex offenders own fault for committing a crime that causes him hardship.

It is the fault of the sex offender when he commits his crime that they and thier victims lives are destroyed, and also the lives of both of thier families.

Statistics are not going to excuse them from the crimes that sex offenders commit.

I don't care if X-man did it once and will never do it again. What matters is that X-man DID IT ONCE.

Wouldn't you like to know that Uncle Larry at the family reunion once raped and sodomized a child? Or Cousin Bob held a woman down with a knife to her throat so he could get his jollies?

Do you think that you or your family would feel safe being around these people? They may have only been prosecuted once, but don't you feel that this registry shows someones judge of character if they are capable of committing such a crime?

Would you feel safe letting Larry watch your kids while you go talk to Aunt Maureen, or letting Bob drive your wife to the store to get more chips?

Do you really think that Larry or Bob is going to tell you about thier crimes?

People should be able to live in a society where they don't have to fear everyone, even thier family.If we were to live as Zman suggests, we would never leave our homes for fear of something happening to us. We cannot live in fear of everyone and everything. "Oh No! Here comes the mailman! Lock the door! I better not hug my cousin... he may attack me"

He believes this registry does no good.Doing something is better than doing nothing. People do not base thier life on what the registry says Zman, they use it as a "just in case". You are just mad because you are on it.

8. ZMan said:

Ignore WASP and review my blog and decide for yourself. She is blind and cannot even comprehend what I am trying to say. She thinks just because I am a convicted sex offender that that makes anything I have to say invalid.. What a joke!!!

10. Reginal said:

Zman, you are a sex offender enthusiast it seems. You want to make it less of a problem for the criminal. Perhaps a summary offense? It should be very hard for you to accomplish anything with your life after you damage someone in such a way. It does take away all of your credibility that you are the type of scum that causes these laws to be drafted. Your inability to function as a dignified human being is the reason you have to live differently that other humans. I feel nothing for you. This should be an awful way to live. I hope someday you will describe at length every bit of the pain you have felt from your crime and its punishment so I can know for myself how well these laws are working.

12. The Fallen One said:

You are forgetting a few things in this argument. First of all, you left out the FACT that the vast majority of crimes are committed by people NOT ON THE REGISTRY! I'm sure WASP Ohio is familiar with the Human Rights Watch report-- at least 6 of every ven sex inmates in prison are first time offenders. Or how about that US Dept. of Justice report that shows that 3,228 NON-SEX offenders committed sex crimes within 3 years of release, while sex offenders committed 517 in the same 3 year period. That's around sex times as many non-sex offenders committing sex crimes as former offenders. So while WASP Ohio has that false sense of security that Mr. Mailman is safe because he's not on the registry, Mr. Mailman just might be that 6 of the 7 who is a threat but not on the registry.

Real solutions to the sex crime issue involve prevention and education. WASP Ohio just proved how warped the logic is in the laws, because these laws, which do nothing to prevent sex crimes, don't address those other six people, and you don't even think of them because you are busy worry over the RSO down the street.

We should be getting SMARTER raher than TOUGHER. You pass tough laws in order to continue punishing former offenders (that's not the alleged intent of the law, BTW), but provide no options for those who have served their time and are looking to live out the rest of their lives in peace. You are so blinded by bloodlust and wrath you fail to realize that by puttting barriers in the way of delicate reintegration proper that you are creating incentives to disobey the law while further punishing those who are at least trying to live on the straight and narrow.

Reginal's comment was even sicker because he believes the law is supposed to cause suffering. Suffering is a key barrier to reintegration. If you have a dog that bites, do you think kicking him every day will somehow stop him from biting? You seriously need to rethink your position.

Smarter means finding a SOLUTION, not creating more problems. Its not about being "soft" versus "hard," but finding a way to balance public safety and the reintegration of released offenders. Many offenders, even Jessica's law offenders, will still be released someday. Hae it all you want, but its a fact of life. The question is, do you allow that person to get a job and a place to live and a chance to live out his days, or do you harm that person and place barriers before that person, goading him to return to his fallen ways? I believe the former to be a choice that benefits SOCIETY. That is up to you.

http://www.oncefallen.com/Prevention101.html

14. anonymous25 said:

i will say this, i am a registered sex offender. i was convicted in 2001, and was told i could get it expunged when i got off probation. i was 18 at the time. my probation lasted for 3 years, i had 48 hrs in jail before i started probation. i had to do sex offender therapy for those three years i was on probation,i had to pay monthly fees for the therapy, monthly fees for being on probation, a fee for the DNA test, so they had it on file, and i had to do 100hrs of community service for every single month that i was on probation. i also had to pay fees to my lawyer.

i am also disabled, and have autism. even though i was 18 my mentality was that of a 13-15 yr old. my victim was related to me, and they were 13 yrs of age.

i got of probation in 2004, and have lived a fairly normal 3 years since then, except for the fact that none of my family members allow me to be alone with anyone under 18.

what most of you dont know is that when you are in therapy, you learn all of the issues and reasons that cause you to offend. you are given tools so that when "such and such" situation arises, you will deal with it appropiatly instead of bottling it up and then acting out sexually at a later time. most sex offenders, at the time they offend, have low self-esteem, due to issues and events that have happened to them up until that point in time. then for some reason, they act out sexually.

if you really want to place blame, blame the people who told the offender their whole life that they can never do this thing, or they will never amount to much, or the offender grows up lonely, trying to make friends, and watchin all the people they would like to be friends with comepletely disreguard them, and go hang out with people they have been friends with for much longer and make new friends with such ease, that the person starts to feel worthless, and that maybe sumthing is wrong with them. and that whoever told them they wont amount to anything is right. when this person hits rock bottom and feels alone the most is when they will finally do something sexual to somebody, not because they are sick, but because they feel worthless. they want to be with some body, in anyway possible.

as they go through the counceling, the go through the stages of "i did nothing wrong, society made me this way", or "it was mutual, i wasnt at fault", and many other excuses. as time passes, and you learn the exact "why" of what made you break down and offend, you start to feel better about yourself and start having a positive self-image, your self-esteem grows, and you start feeling as though you are a better person than you were before you started therapy. you are like a completely different person,and yet you are still the same person that offended, and had the issues that made you offend, but now, you can deal with situations better, you let things people say slide off you because you know they are untrue, they hurt you less, and you arent depressed anymore.

most sex offenders on the list after they have finished probation/parole, done the sex offender therapy, and what not have paid avery high price, and the fact they are still on the registry for the next 10 years makes it very high.

i will say that there are a few, who will reoffend, and this is mainly because they had a very bad sex offender treatment. the one that is offered by the LDS counceling service is one of these, they are of the opinion that once you're an offender you are always an offender. they treat you like you are a sick dirty minded person... and you will always be that way.

however the day reporting center treats you as whole person, not just the sex offender portion, its the whole person that made you decide to sex offend, by the time you get out of treatment of this program, most people having lost lots of money, paid a huge debt, and yet learned a ton about themselves, because of what happened the first time, are very not likely to offend again! the price is too high!

instead of focusing on the people who are the registered sex offenders, the law should put more time and energy into finding and aprehending the people who ARE NOT on the registry. we are listed, we have no privacy, our life is made hell because we made a bad choice. many of us wish to be left alone, and to be able to live a life of some normalcy. and hopefully achieve our dreams.

THIS IS A REALITY: there are children everywhere now days. How is a person on the registry not supposed to run into them? they are on the bus, they are on the sidewalks, they are in stores, malls, parks, everywhere. Sex Offenders already know that they missed the boat and quite possibly made the rest of their lives a living hell. we already know what we did, there is no need to rub it in our faces. we also know that we have done significant reparations for the victim. and even if our relationship isn't what it was, it still is some sort of respect, knowing that we made a mistake, acknolging it, and moving on.

the fact that we are now supposed to register every 6 months, on the month of our b-day and again six months later, is a joke! not only that, but i just found out that i now have to pay $100 yearly for being on the registry, when i never had to pay for it before past, having people commenting on what scum i was. isnt being told you're scum payment enuf? i get social security disability income, and i barely have enuf money to actuall have a roof over my head, pay for a cellphone, pay for medical insurance, and pay for food, i do NOT have the money to put $100 into a yearly registration fee!

i have been looking for a job but have had no luck finding one that meets the requirements of the listing of jobs i would be prevented from getting when i was convicted. i do not have money to even pay for my first time $100 fee.

i am supposed to be getting off the registry in 2014, and yet i hear rumors of people trying to pass a law so that no sex offenders can be removed from the registry, i am also now told that i cant get it expunged because the crime involved a minor, i assume this is a new law, since when i was convicted in 2001, i was told it could be expunged.

considering that they are invading out privacy more and more, it makes it not even worth going to college, work, driving a car, having the internet, or even stepping outside your house except to go update your sex offender registration. what's next? updating the registry every month instead of every 6 months? paying a fee for being on the registry every month as well? why the hell should these laws apply to people who were convicted before they were passed?